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Old 11-03-2010, 10:29 PM
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I've decided to aid my goal in doing something that stands out from the typical scene I'm gonna j swap a wagovan. Before anybody asks, no I do not plan on retaining the awd settup. I am actually trying to find one in the kansas area, but I might already have one lined up. As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) it should be just like swapping the j into an ef hatch. I've already got a j32a2 longblock and a tl type s 6 speed sitting at home. Just working on getting everything else together. I've got a couple of questions that a haven't searched the forum for yet. First is will I be able to use the AEM EMS settup in this car and will the hybrid racing shift box kit work with it. Any help with this swap will be much appreciated, and I will keep you guys posted as I progress (though it might be a bit slow). As far as I know this will be the first j swapped wagovan ever attempted so ill need all the help I can get. Thanks again guys.
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:22 AM
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:51 PM
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that will be a cool swap . i would like to see it AWD to be done , you could if you used the honda ridgeline tranny , it did come six speed for limited run back in 05 - 06 . as far as the install will be like doing a EF shell. shift will work. the electrical you will only need a few of the factory wires to run the engine . figure out what woud you like to do about the cluster, due to it being not fully compatible. look at a AP2 cluster . a little rewiring but it would fit .
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:21 PM
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Like it. Love it. Want more of it!

If you are accepting votes on the matter, I'm with Don, find a salvage MDX and stay AWD!
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:02 AM
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the early civic wagon, while ugly as sin would be pretty cool blowing past most things on the road.

as far as don goes, i want to live in his reality. where odysseys came in 4wd sport models and ridgelines came with 6spd in 05 before they were even released as an 06 having only a 5spd auto from there on out.

if one was interested in a 6spd awd setup for the j one would have to start looking into the 09 and up tl 6spd as that is the only j 6spd awd offered as of yet.

as well if one was to try and keep 4wd with their j swap, they would need more than just a tranny and a diff. the specific rear diff from the vehicle/model the trans came from would be required as there are more than a few different gear ratios between the various 4wd/awd cars and trucks that have to be matched to the final drive and transfer gear ratios to not fail impressively as soon as the rear end engages.

not to mention controlling the sh-awd or vtm4. the factory control units need individual wheel speed inputs as well as a few engine inputs to control the amount and type of clutch engagement for the diff. this would mean you would need a starter vehicle with abs sensors or to swap in some such means. also the newer sh-awd and vtm4 systems get this info via serial data CAN communication so those are pretty much useless for "most" of us.
you could maybe adapt a GIPO board to control it but that's a different class for a different day.

but still the wagon will be cool with a j.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:09 PM
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thank god i dont live in your reality, because in 1999 in japan the honda oddessy came AWD . here are some photo of one the the vehicles of sale as we speak.

1999 honda odyssey gran turismo edition






you are right about something , the ridgelines came in 5 speed manual not 6 , but they sill came manual. look at the honda truck article pasted about on this site that is 5 speed manual.

all that a side , try put the engine side-ways. like they did in the s2000. run the j32 or j35 with a adapter plate to a s2000 tranny . then run it rear wheel drive instead. now that would be impressive. think about it the rear end is setup , sort of . could even use the diff out of the s2000 as well.
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Old 11-06-2010, 12:38 AM
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Sounds like a lot of fab work to me. That and I'm sure a s2000 trans and rear diff wouldn't be the cheapest purchase lol. Idk I've already got the tl type s transmission sitting here, so I think I'm just gonna do a front wheel drive setup for now. Maybe later on down the road I could always change it around (that's what being a tuner is all about right ; )) I just don't have the money or know how to take on a project like that quite yet. thanks for the info though guys
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Old 11-07-2010, 02:17 AM
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thank god i dont live in your reality, because in 1999 in japan the honda oddessy came AWD . here are some photo of one the the vehicles of sale as we speak.

1999 honda odyssey gran turismo edition






you are right about something , the ridgelines came in 5 speed manual not 6 , but they sill came manual. look at the honda truck article pasted about on this site that is 5 speed manual.

all that a side , try put the engine side-ways. like they did in the s2000. run the j32 or j35 with a adapter plate to a s2000 tranny . then run it rear wheel drive instead. now that would be impressive. think about it the rear end is setup , sort of . could even use the diff out of the s2000 as well.
good luck getting an awd odyssey, complete enough to utilize the awd especially, into the u.s. and no, no ridgeline came with a manual transmission 5 nor 6 spd. if you read the article it even states that hondata even modified the shift points in the auto trans portion of the ecu. which was in part the whole point of my posting that article. it's nothing personal, i have a lot of respect for what you have done.

that swap is tight enough the right way. what year and trim wagon are you looking at?
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good luck getting an awd odyssey, complete enough to utilize the awd especially, into the u.s. and no, no ridgeline came with a manual transmission 5 nor 6 spd. if you read the article it even states that hondata even modified the shift points in the auto trans portion of the ecu. which was in part the whole point of my posting that article.


it's nothing personal, i have a lot of respect for what you have done.
"ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha "


that swap is tight enough the right way. what year and trim wagon are you looking at?
so i was curious.
then i did a google search.
i searched for japanese domestic vehicles.
the second listing on my search was a site that lists vehicles for sale in japan.
i found the 99 odyssey for sale in question. http://www.japantradecar.com/Used-Ca...ssey/5487.aspx
it actually is an old style 4 cylinder 2.3l accord motor 4 door odyssey. which is one of the best odysseys out there.
however there is no earthly way possible (not even with the best "fabricators" on this forum) to utilize and or adapt this vehicles drive line in any way to a j swap.
this is an old f series probably sohc which as we all should know turns the wrong way, much like all the other 4s being swapped out of all these cars getting js.
i would like to have thought that the people who are sooooo idolized here would open their eyes every once and a while and pay attention to the details. you typically don't step into shit if you look where your going.


any ways.
sorry again about jacking your wagovan thread with stupid bickering.
good luck on your swap.
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good luck getting an awd odyssey, complete enough to utilize the awd especially, into the u.s. and no, no ridgeline came with a manual transmission 5 nor 6 spd. if you read the article it even states that hondata even modified the shift points in the auto trans portion of the ecu. which was in part the whole point of my posting that article.


it's nothing personal, i have a lot of respect for what you have done.
"ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha "


that swap is tight enough the right way. what year and trim wagon are you looking at?
so i was curious.
then i did a google search.
i searched for japanese domestic vehicles.
the second listing on my search was a site that lists vehicles for sale in japan.
i found the 99 odyssey for sale in question. http://www.japantradecar.com/Used-Ca...ssey/5487.aspx
it actually is an old style 4 cylinder 2.3l accord motor 4 door odyssey. which is one of the best odysseys out there.
however there is no earthly way possible (not even with the best "fabricators" on this forum) to utilize and or adapt this vehicles drive line in any way to a j swap.
this is an old f series probably sohc which as we all should know turns the wrong way, much like all the other 4s being swapped out of all these cars getting js.
i would like to have thought that the people who are sooooo idolized here would open their eyes every once and a while and pay attention to the details. you typically don't step into poo if you look where your going.


any ways.
sorry again about jacking your wagovan thread with stupid bickering.
good luck on your swap.
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