Opinions on EG hatch build??

[THE DANIMAL39]

alright folks first off i have a 1992 honda civic vx that i planed on putting a j35a4 motor in but am now having second thoughts because i c a lot of j32 builds on this site. So im just wondering on a budget of just over $2,000 what would the ideal motor and tranny combo be for my car to get some serious ponies.. also i am not shure about what axils to buy, will the hasport one's work or should i go for the drive shaft shop 2.9 axils?? Ow ya and i almost forgot which hasport mount should i use the first gen. ones or the scond gen. please give me some advice im a noob....



PEACE

[Screech`:)]

Good luck trying to do this swap with $2,000. I will probably end up spending around $4,200 on j32a2 swap. I might go with hasport axles, but I hear they are weaker. First gen. mounts will stick out pretty far, but you'll have more ground clearance. I may end up going with 2nd gen. but haven't made up my mind yet. there are other companies also. I would do some more searching.

[paton]

Opinions on actual cost will vary across the board, as does patience and time available. I have been piecing together a swap for about 8 months and I have spent just over $2600 CDN.

That includes... 2 engines (J32A3, J32A2) clutch, flywheel, '05 TL 6 SPD trans, shift cables, wiring harness, CL-S ECU, hybrid racing shifter, hasport mounts + axles, miscellaneous parts.

I just bought the J32A2 and it gets freighted in this week.

Dude, look around, shop, bargain. Don't buy the first thing you see because there will always be another opportunity to buy something. If you are patient and want it badly enough, it will come together.

Another word of advice... get ADVICE from more than one person. When you are shovelling out thousands of dollars on engines and parts, you'll want to know it's going to work. Look twice, buy once.

As for mounts, I'd go with the first gen ones, as they provide the most ground clearance. Don't sacrifice engine height for looks, it's not worth it. 95% of people with a J swap have a lowered car. You'll kick your own ass for months if you smash your motor off the ground. Unless you plan to drive only on airplane runways, you want more clearance.

As for engine choice, I would highly recommend a complete 6MT swap. It is more reliable and code free (exception for immobilizer) when compared against a modified Auto swap. There are several guys on here who will testify to this.

Good luck on your swap.

[THE DANIMAL39]

everybody keeps recommending a complete 6mt build but to tell you the truth i have no clue what that is. Could some budy fill me in im a noob.

[paton]

A complete 6MT build means that everything is from a genuine 6 Speed. Engine, transmission, Wiring, ECU.

Some guys have swapped in an engine from an Odyssey (for example) with a 6 speed trans (6MT Accord, for example) and then used a modified auto harness, with an auto ECU. The engine and ECU have been tricked to make them think it's in DRIVE all the time and then you just manually shift with the 6 speed transmission. However, the cons of this are obvious. This type of swap will never be code free. Most swaps like this run in 'limp mode' which limits the power and rev potential.

A complete 6 speed swap is straight forward. Get all 6 speed parts, hook it all up, wire it into the car. The only code you will have (provided all emissions equipment is present) is an an immobilizer code. This swap will run smoothly, reliably and is easy to diagnose if there is a problem.

6 Speed Engine Swap - Can be found in the 2003 CL Type S, there are by some estimates 2500 of these in the United States, so parts are becoming hard to find, but not impossible.

Limp Mode - The ECU will do this when certain codes are present. Honda designed it to protect the engine in the event something serious is wrong. It reduces the power and the rev potential so no further damage is done. When an auto swap is done, some of the codes you will have put the car into 'limp mode'

6MT - 6 Speed Manual Transmission

The Auto swap is A LOT more affordable without a doubt. The Odyssey is a very popular vehicle and therefore is often found at the wreckers. The engines are cheap and very powerful. Because of this it's appealing to people building on a budget.

Don't get me wrong... the Auto Swap will get the job done, but just like everything: You get what you pay for.

[THE DANIMAL39]

Thanks man that helps a lot. Do you think its realistic to think that i can do a j series swap for just over 2,000 thats my budget

[1sicktl]

Thanks man that helps a lot. Do you think its realistic to think that i can do a j series swap for just over 2,000 thats my budget

Not to get the most power out of the j swap let's put it this way you can bearly do a b swap with 2000 dollars is just not happenin bro

[acidbath124]

depending on the parts you use and any deals you can find its doable for around that. i dont have much more than that in my but your most likely going to be closer to 3000 to get it done

[THE DANIMAL39]

thanks for giving me some hope man. i have been calling around and are probly going to use a j35a4 since there considrably cheaper than the full 6mt swap and im on a budget. but i was wondering is it worth the 500 to send my 2 harnesses and ecu in to Tim Beadle and have him remove the imobilizer and make it a plug in play deal or should i attempt this myself??

[acidbath124]

i personally wouldnt send anything to tim beadle or deal with him at all. i have heard several bad things from people that have used his harness and the way he wires it up is weird i think he wires it so that the v tec solenoid is always open . i would go with Don at RPM systems for wiring hes a great guy and he really knows his stuff. as far as taking the immobolizer out its pretty simple just wiggle the chip back and forth till it breaks off is pretty much all you have to do

[THE DANIMAL39]

ight thanks alot man how do i get ahold of Don???

[1diesel2hondas]

Calling him might work. Jk. RPM systems ny. RPM Systems is what don posts under and it's the name of the shop. You can find him in the vendor section.

[THE DANIMAL39]

hey thanks man i got his number and will be giving him a call.

[j32a2project]

Not sure what you heard about Tim Beadle, but he is the one that basically started the J swaps. Everytime I have called him he has been cool, very knowledgeable and very helpful. He may do things different, but he has much knowledge on these swaps, and he does what gets the most out of them.

[wolydotmatrix]

Tim worked with me on my harness as well, and no issues to report. To each his own. I have talk to Tim and Don both on the phone. I have no negative comments to make about either of them. Both were very helpful to me.

Adam

[egblack1]

I picked up my 03 TL-S J32A2 for $350 ECU (same) $200 Trans 04 Accord 6speed $650 and Hasport mounts and axles $834. Still waiting on Rywire harness and Hybrid Racing J-swap shifter box both another $410. So I really dont think you'll come close to $2000 unless you really have a hook up, like i did for the motor, ecu, and trans. Good luck though!

[egblack1]

Whats Tims number and how much did he charge?? Rywire charged me $300